What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

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What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by Pacific » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:42 pm

Hey there I am writing a wolf sory and want to be as accurate as possible. I have two questions:
Who takes over when a pack leader dies? How is this decided?
What if the leader grows old and is weak? Will another wolf take his position?

Thank you for reading this and I hope to find an answer soon.
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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by April » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:55 pm

Wolves usually fight for dominance. So if a leader died, the next strongest (dominant) (one who wins the battle) will take that step up. At least, that's what I think would happen.

And if a leader grows old and weak, yes I'm pretty sure another will take his position.
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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by Pacific » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:59 pm

Thanks- that's what I thought but I wanted to be sure. =)
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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by bonsai123 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:42 am

i want to know would they kill the leader... i think they might, or maybe the leader just dies, but i think april is right.
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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by SolitaryHowl » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:52 pm

April wrote:Wolves usually fight for dominance. So if a leader died, the next strongest (dominant) (one who wins the battle) will take that step up. At least, that's what I think would happen.

And if a leader grows old and weak, yes I'm pretty sure another will take his position.
I don't think wolves 'battle'. Just the more dominant one takes the position.
bonsai123 wrote:i want to know would they kill the leader... i think they might, or maybe the leader just dies, but i think april is right.
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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by pawnee » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:14 pm

bonsai123 wrote:i want to know would they kill the leader... i think they might, or maybe the leader just dies, but i think april is right.
In Dave Mech's book wolves, he talks about this briefly. He states that sme wolves remember how they were treated by the dominant animal and reflect these misdoings on the invidual. eg if the dominant animal was brutal, the pack could drive her/him out once they loose their domiant standing within the pack. But if the leader was beneviolent, then their often cared for by the pack. The details into the research of this idea are not fully explained, but there are examples.

If a dominant animal passed away, another would take its place, or worse comes to worse, the pack would split up. In captive situations where wolves cannot move away, soemtimes social heirarchy breaks down, and sevral animals will produce young.
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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by Sportysam24 » Sat May 02, 2009 10:52 am

Then the next in line will probably take over. Alphas are first then betas then omegas. That is also the rule of eating

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Re: What happens when the alpha dies or can't lead?

Post by Pacific » Tue May 05, 2009 5:21 pm

This is an old topic. I've gotten an answer, please lock.
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