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Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by Jazzman » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:38 pm

I heard several times that black wolves can only be borned if there is a dog in the bloodline, because the black fur doesn't exist in a wolves genes or something.
Is that true? o.O
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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by wq47 HawkTail » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:51 pm

That is absolutely not true. There are many black wolves in dark forests, for thats where they blend in the best. Of course, you can find them any place wolves live. That is also not true with blue eyes. Some wolves, rarely, have blue eyes. Pups often have blue eyes that change to yellow as they age. Some wolves eyes never change from the beautiful icy blue color.
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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by -Glacier- » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:46 pm

The gene variant for black fur actually comes from dogs that bred with wolves thousands of years ago.

There is an interesting article about this, found here:


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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by SolitaryHowl » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:44 am

wolfquest47 wrote:That is absolutely not true. There are many black wolves in dark forests, for thats where they blend in the best. Of course, you can find them any place wolves live. That is also not true with blue eyes. Some wolves, rarely, have blue eyes. Pups often have blue eyes that change to yellow as they age. Some wolves eyes never change from the beautiful icy blue color.
I'd like to point this out about the eyes.

Adult wolves never have blue eyes, especially not the blue you are thinking of. They may be blind, so their eyes take on a blueish/greyish hue, but the eyes are never blue.
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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by Jazzman » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:28 am

Ok, now I've found several sites saying, that black wolves may have far back ancestors. I think the links are useless here, because all sites are on german..
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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by SolitaryHowl » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:57 pm

Glacier Wolf wrote:The gene variant for black fur actually comes from dogs that bred with wolves thousands of years ago.

There is an interesting article about this, found here:


http://www.wolfquest.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16812

Try looking at that article above.
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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by wq47 HawkTail » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:16 pm

SolitaryHowl wrote:
wolfquest47 wrote:That is absolutely not true. There are many black wolves in dark forests, for thats where they blend in the best. Of course, you can find them any place wolves live. That is also not true with blue eyes. Some wolves, rarely, have blue eyes. Pups often have blue eyes that change to yellow as they age. Some wolves eyes never change from the beautiful icy blue color.
I'd like to point this out about the eyes.

Adult wolves never have blue eyes, especially not the blue you are thinking of. They may be blind, so their eyes take on a blueish/greyish hue, but the eyes are never blue.
Actually, i read in a non fiction book that a wolf in some zoo recently turned fifteen, and his eyes never changed from the puppy-blue color.
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Re: Black wolves - dogs as ancestors

Post by Songdog » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:40 pm

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