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Re: Information about Dire Wolves (Canis Dirus)

Post by Canidae » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:32 pm

Aspine wrote:Very interesting. I'm going on Google now to find some pictures on the Dire Wolf, if I can find any that is, maybe I'll just look at the drawings. =)

Seeing as they went extinct long before cameras were invented, I'm pretty sure you're only going to find illustrations of the Dire wolf. ^^; That is, unless you find pictures of Dire wolf bones.
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Post by Inspector Javert » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:47 pm

Thank you for the material, I have seen this documentary and it is very cool!
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Post by Atropine » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:44 pm

Thank you for all the helpful information; it's hard to find reliable and correct information on dire wolves^^ I do have one question - were the dire wolves a completely different species to the grey wolf, or just pre-evolved versions? Sorry if my question doesn't make much sense. x3
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Post by Adalae » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:53 pm

Atropine wrote:Thank you for all the helpful information; it's hard to find reliable and correct information on dire wolves^^ I do have one question - were the dire wolves a completely different species to the grey wolf, or just pre-evolved versions? Sorry if my question doesn't make much sense. x3
hmmm. My guess is they are different sub species, like how red wolves are different than gray wolves... Since gray wolves are canis lupus and dire wolves are canus dirus.

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Post by Canidae » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:26 pm

Dire wolves weren't even wolves at all. Like has been said many times now, they were more closely related to coyotes than wolves.

Just because they have "wolf" in their name, it doesnt mean they are one (e.g. Maned wolf, aardwolf, etc.).
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Post by Adalae » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:58 pm

Canidae wrote:Dire wolves weren't even wolves at all. Like has been said many times now, they were more closely related to coyotes than wolves.

Just because they have "wolf" in their name, it doesnt mean they are one (e.g. Maned wolf, aardwolf, etc.).
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Post by Catarinab » Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:25 pm

Here is a site with more information for you SolitaryHowl:
http://www.wolfsource.org/?page_id=110

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Re: Information about Dire Wolves (Canis Dirus)

Post by Andoria » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:43 pm

Wow! We're doing a small unit in school about the Ice Age.

I'll mention this in class :D
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Post by moonshadowwalker » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:29 pm

Its good to find people taking an interest in species long lost, I've learned a lot just reading the first post! thanks for making this topic. :D
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Post by Eternala » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:14 pm

This is very nifty! Thanks very much for posting this, SolitaryHowl!

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Post by BatteriesNotIncluded » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:51 pm

Huh. Really i though Dire wolves were still alive today. but i guess its not the case. Anyway thanks for telling me at first i had no idea what a dire wolf looked like. But i am a fan of timber wolves. :D (i love emotes :) )
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Re: Information about Dire Wolves (Canis Dirus)

Post by Crocotto » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:55 am

Good thread, bad program. I have seen Prehistoric predators, and although the Smilodon episode was accurate, the Short Faced Bear and Dire Wolf episodes were way off the mark. History channel never was good at prehistory. They exaggerate, and tend to make claims with no evidence. I've been into paleontology since I was 2 and have been studying in it for over 10 years now. Here's me two cents
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- Able to fight off much larger predators like the Saber Tooth cat and the Short-faced bear.


- Dominant killer in the ice age.


- Mostly hunted on Bison and Mammoth

Dire wolves were the underdogs of Ice age North America. Even in large packs they often lost prey too larger carnivores, especially the Giant Short Faced bear. This is most evident in nearly a quarter of all injuries found on Dire Wolf fossils match up with evidence of a bear attack.
They were anything BUT the alpha carnivore of the Ice Age

Lastly, there is absolutely zero evidence dire wolves predated on any species of mammoth or mastodon. Even the calves were just too big for them. The only predators any North American elephantine has was the giant Short Faced bear (who was a legitimate hunter, another victim of history channel's inaccuracy), Smilodon (calves only), and humans

The episode also neglects to state the dire "wolves's" relation. It continues to paint the false image that Dires are just over sized Gray Wolves; instead of stating the true fact that the dire "wolf" is really a Dire Coyote, as the American Coyote is it's closest living relative
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Post by alethe » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:50 am

Wow that's really cool! I never new any of that. And I might rent the movie, it seems so cool!


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Re: Information about Dire Wolves (Canis Dirus)

Post by Crocotto » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:31 pm

river6 wrote:Wow that's really cool! I never new any of that. And I might rent the movie, it seems so cool!
....did you read anything I just said
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Re: Information about Dire Wolves (Canis Dirus)

Post by La Striata » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:21 am

Crocotto wrote: The episode also neglects to state the dire "wolves's" relation. It continues to paint the false image that Dires are just over sized Gray Wolves; instead of stating the true fact that the dire "wolf" is really a Dire Coyote, as the American Coyote is it's closest living relative
Personally, I'd call them something else entirely, with no reference whatsoever to coyotes and wolves. I've always been fond of the name Mykob, a Navajo word for demon wolves.

It seems that our ancestors were more creative in inventing names for new animals. Nowadays, when a new canid species is discovered, it is simply given the name "wolf", "dog" or "jackal" with an adjective.
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