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Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by pawnee » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:48 pm

Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Posted: Dec 17, 2013 10:55 AM EST
Updated: Dec 17, 2013 10:55 AM EST
BOISE, Idaho (AP) - State wildlife officials have hired a hunter to eliminate two wolf packs in a federal wilderness area in central Idaho because officials say they are eating too many elk calves.

Fish and Game Bureau Chief Jeff Gould tells the Idaho Statesman (http://bit.ly/JDijri ) that hunters are having a difficult time getting into the Frank Church-River of No Return wilderness, so the agency hired hunter-trapper Gus Thoreson of Salmon to kill the wolves in the Golden and Monumental packs.

The U.S. Forest Service allowed the state agency to use an airstrip and cabin in the Payette National Forest as a base.

Fish and Game paid $22,500 for aerial killing of 14 wolves in the Lolo area in 2012. Gould said Monday he didn't know how much the agency would end up paying for Thoreson's salary and expenses.

Information from: Idaho Statesman, http://www.idahostatesman.com

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I thought it was interesting that wolves would the dominant concern for elk-calves in the winter. Do tough winters usually result in an increase in predator control? I'm not sure. I know people around where I am put out food for deer in the winter (though feeding wildlife is illegal in many places). Has anyone else read more about this type of management recently?
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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by Mist Chaser » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:57 pm

Two entire packs? That seems a bit... um.... crazy. But I guess if they're eating all the calves then they need to be stopped. Elks must go on for the other packs to go on. Did it say anything about the size of the two wolf packs?
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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by TheImmortalWolf » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:10 am

but wolves dont eat calves they eat the full grown males that are injured or old or old females that are injured or old
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Post by alethe » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:19 am

Wolves target the weak. So th injured, old, and calves. If they can catch it, they eat it.


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Post by little pup 2 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:20 pm

Why the wolves are eating too MUCH is beyond me. Wolves only take what they need. At least save some of the wolves, or relocate them, or something. :?:
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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by La Striata » Fri May 16, 2014 9:04 am

little pup 2 wrote:Why the wolves are eating too MUCH is beyond me. Wolves only take what they need. At least save some of the wolves, or relocate them, or something. :?:
Not always. Look up surplus killing.
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Post by firedog6 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:07 pm

little pup 2 wrote:Why the wolves are eating too MUCH is beyond me. Wolves only take what they need. At least save some of the wolves, or relocate them, or something. :?:
Yeah... Relocate them. All hunters care about is killing and money;
it amazes me that they hardly do anything else.
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Post by TheImmortalWolf » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:09 pm

id say that the HUMANS need to be relocated its the WOLFS land
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Post by alethe » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:33 pm

Its nobody's land. The wolves don't own it either.


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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by Chumpkins_ » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:40 pm

firedog6 wrote:Yeah... Relocate them. All hunters care about is killing and money;
it amazes me that they hardly do anything else.
There not all evil like you think they are. Hunting stabilizes population. And people hunt all other animals for trophy, are you going to pity them too? Why do wolves get special treatment?
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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by alethe » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:44 pm

Adding on to what Silver said, hunters normally follow laws to regulate hunting. So mostly it is not just blind killing like you suggested. Within reason, you are allowed to hunt wolves. If they follow the rules, and don't overkill, its none of your business if someone likes to do it.


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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by firedog6 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:54 pm

Yes, Silver! I know hate is a strong word - quite strong indeed - I must say I hate ALL hunters. The ones that kill fish or elk or something for food does not bother me, but any hunter - killing an innocent animal for any reason other than that - I hate them.
I know you're saying that if they kill wolves under monitoring to stabilize popular than it's okay, but it is NOT. Humans are taking over this world, they're squishing the animals out of it! Why isn't it okay to kill them? Mammals & reptiles may differ in many ways. Some are smarter, have more legs, have more hair, talk more, but what does that matter!? They each feel the pain of being killed. They aren't just toys that get overpopulated if you don't painfully shoot them every year.
And yes, it IS my business! Wow, I actually thought that people wanted to STOP hunting, not keep doing it. Wow; that is so ridiculous. I mean, yeah yeah we share the land no body owns it but, wolves own part of the land! If we're going to blast the guts of out wolves for crossing an unseen border, how dare they encroach on the wolves land and kill them! If it's illegal to do something to humans, than it's illegal to animals - simple as that. Wolves can feel the same thing, and they are more important to our society than humans in quite a few ways. When you use a hurtful collar on a dog, sure, it teaches them differently than a human - but its painful! Just as painful as it would be on a human.

And yes, it is crazy that they ate all that cattle. But if you really love wolves you're going to boycott that kind of lazy stuff and rant the people to ACTUALLY save our wolves and tranquilize them and relocate them!!! And they are evil. When somebody murders a child, they are... mean! Stupid, what ever bad words you can think of. Why aren't hunters considered that? And I didn't mention blind killing, or anything like that!!! I said all they care about is "KILLING AND MONEY" nothing about blind killing.
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Re: Wildlife officials hire hunter to kill wolves

Post by TheImmortalWolf » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:42 pm

river6 wrote:Its nobody's land. The wolves don't own it either.
you misunderstood i meant the humans are taking the wolfs land
technicaly the wolfs lived there fist then the humans so humans shouldnt be able to take there land

its true firedog6 all they care about is killing and money
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Post by alethe » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:46 pm

No, the wolves don't own it.


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Post by La Striata » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:36 pm

firedog6 wrote:Yes, Silver! I know hate is a strong word - quite strong indeed - I must say I hate ALL hunters. The ones that kill fish or elk for food if they live in the wilderness does not bother me, but any hunter - killing an innocent animal for any reason other than that - I hate them.
You must really hate me then.
TheImmortalWolf wrote: you misunderstood i meant the humans are taking the wolfs land
technicaly the wolfs lived there fist then the humans so humans shouldnt be able to take there land
Do you actually have any proof of that?
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